Thank you for being straightforward with your opinions and reasoning, and also giving us your professional background experience.
I do believe that Jon and Derek are acting in good faith, based on their understanding. I do not consider either of them a grifter. (Please spell Jon's name correctly, Herold).
As for the purpose of COG and COOP as you clearly stated, it is based on continuing the Constitution. However, in 2020 America was attacked by enemies, foreign and domestic, on multiple fronts, with the result being our country was overthrown. We are currently an occupied country, not under our Constitution, UNLESS, plans were set in place by Trump beforehand.
Agree , Trump is a war time president , as our County is being held captive by deep state power. The military is running things because we’re at war. That’s one issue you didn’t address. In normal circumstances, I can understand your concerns, however , this is a war and America is under attack.
Biden didn’t get an inauguration. The White House and DC is a ghost town. Nothing is normal since this man was placed as “president “. Everything is wrong , because it’s not legitimate . We all know it .
How about you point out where it was weak what part? And what are you talking about? Because I call OU Derek followers out and you guys can never answer the question. What is Derek Johnson‘s theory? How did the government initiate martial law or how did trump do it? And where exactly does it say that the commander-in-chief and the president are separate positions? How does Marshal login initiate it? You can’t answer any of that shit. So take your childish and easily manipulated brain elsewhere because you keep making these very ignorant and childish responses you’re going to get hammered. You’re gonna get hammered with some logic, and the only way you’re going to respond is in a childish manner like you’re already doing. You guys can’t explain your own theory. Let’s have it.
I didn’t hire him. He volunteered to write a rebuttal. He’s one of MANY people who live in reality. The problem is, you’ve been brainwashed. Just go drink some more of Derek’s Kool-Aid and leave me the F alone
In January of 2017 under CISA (cisa.gov), The Department of Homeland security made election infrastructure part of critical infrastructure. Then on September 12th 2018 President Trump signed executive order 13848 titled imposing certain sanctions in the event of foreign interference in the United States election (trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov) When you combine the two it covers domestic and foreign election interference. Any of you know Gregg Phillips? Thomas Drake, Tore Maras, Sidney Powell? What about General Flynn recently saying nothing's going to be done to correct the coup in America, everyone needs to put pressure on their governors and if you don't you can kiss 2024 goodbye, it's going to get stolen again. Or What about General Nakasone making a public statement after Kari Lake's election got stolen saying in a roundabout way "we've been studying these thieves for a while and we're still gathering information." I'm just thinking to myself, If this is truly a military operation (Q or otherwise) using 5GW (ghost in the machine) and it's supposed to be a controlled demolition as to prevent civil war...The demolition's going way too slow! Most people that were awake are going back to sleep and they're losing hope. Just stating the facts from the grassroots here in Dallas Texas where I am a precinct chair and an election judge.
Which enemy's? We have a lot. How did they attack? Whats an act of war? Which foreign enemy's? Which domestic? Which fronts? What part of the country was overthrown? What do you think has changed from 2020 and 10 or 20 years before that? This is all distracting you from answering those questions. Now, you can get angry at me and tell me that I’m in denial, but I’m not. I want to know exactly who it was. We cannot assume it was China; we don’t know for sure, and neither does Jon or Derek. And this so-called domestic enemy—what exactly do you mean? Are you referring to the deep state, the swamp, or the uniparty? We need names, arrests, trials, a jury, and the whole process. And what about the front? Was it a digital attack or a physical one? I want to understand the specifics so we can take measures to prevent it from happening again. Do you see the point I’m trying to make here? COG and COP are not the appropriate platforms to counter our enemies. It’s as simple as that. Making excuses all day long won’t work, and I refuse to deceive you. This won’t be an easy task.
Jon, or as I call him, Patel Patriot, is just a grifter in my eyes. I don’t care to spell his name correctly because he’s a distraction. He’s fooling you and thousands of other Americans with subversive tactics. It’s infuriating, and that’s the reality, my friend. It’s uncomfortable for me to witness people being fooled by the largest psychological operation ever imposed on our country. I don’t claim to be a saint, but Jon and Derek are unquestionably puppets of this operation.
> I do believe that Jon and Derek are acting in good faith, based on their understanding.
If their understanding is incomplete maybe they didn't do very good, or very deep, research. Bias, or just plain ignorance, is a plague in the world today. One problem I noticed is most people never do very good research, nor research all sides of an issue. For a full understanding it is necessary to research all sides of an issue. That's what my 1970s liberal education taught me.
Liberalism is very different now, it's the opposite of what it was in the 1970s.
We still have 3 branches, and as far as I can tell, the representative branch is neither representing the interests of the American people nor the integrity of our border.
The Durham report and the Twitter files paint a very clear picture of the true scale of the deep corruption of our whole government at every level, from local to state and federal.
It seems obvious that Derek Johnson has some serious issues, and is actively misdirecting people.
Jon's devolution theory is just that, a theory, and he admits as much. Johnson, on the other hand, becomes enraged when anyone dares to question him or propose alternate theories.
Bottom line, massive fraud was committed during the 2020 election, and the issue of election integrity has not been addressed, let alone remedied, to say nothing of the behavior of various 3 letter agencies and their willful , repeated disregard for the law.
Something is very broken in this country, both politically and culturally, and much of it can be traced directly to multiple bad actors in all branches of government, as well as media and finance.
If the election fraud is not rectified, then there is no way Trump will be allowed to regain the presidency, no matter how many people vote for him. The same actors that "fortified" the 2020 election have openly stated they intend to do the same in 2024.
From my limited perspective, it's hard to see a way out of this abyss, and I can understand why many patriots latch onto Jon and Derek's theories.
Americans are horribly demoralized right now, and millions of us don't see the path out of the corruption. It is simply too extensive and powerful.
I hope I'm wrong, but events over the last 7 years, including Covid hysteria, have made it difficult to remain totally positive.
I agree that Johnson makes no sense. I don't buy into his arguments at all. He clearly has problems.
My point, and again, I admit I have a limited perspective as an average citizen, is that the fraud in 2020 was obvious and extensive. If it is not addressed and remedied, then how will Trump, or any other patriot, fix anything?
The corruption reaches all levels of government. I don't doubt that there are good people in every agency, but how does one defeat bad actors at the highest level of every branch of government when they break the laws at will?
They have made it clear they will do whatever it takes to stop Trump, including "fortifying" the next election like they did in 2024. Those are their words, not mine.
I think that Kari Lake’s example and the seemingly overwhelming amount of solid evidence she has will set some precedents. If she can get to the Supreme Court and they have the guts to do the right thing if the evidence is there, that will open the floodgates. If your of the praying kind, spend some time praying she wins and Arizona’s cheating program is rectified. We need divine intervention. Then Kari can be governor until she’s Trumps VP!
So how many years of service does Derrick Johnson have in the Army? I am curious because when i was in the Army i never heard folks say they are “retiring” with just a couple years in service. His verbiage just doesnt allign with the verbiage i was accustomed to or used when i served. He becomes unhinged when someone questions anything he puts out on any platform. He also has a condescending way of talking down to people as well. Didnt take long for me to figure this guy out, he puts out alot of misinformation and just blatant lies.
I will definitely be voting, and 2020 made my family and I get much more directly involved in local politics, including city council and school boards.
All the election theft machinery and actors are still in place in most states. 2020 was stolen. I see little to prevent another stolen election in 2024.
I think they all made their vows to the corporation therefore they are not beholden to the constitution. That’s what Clif High mentioned. Going in they did not understand this...but we’re quickly enlightened. There’s only one way in and no way out. This means the whole thing has to come down because the Constitution says any laws that are repugnant to the constitution will be null and void. Trump in good conscience could not even accept the inauguration. It would have been accepting the terms of the Corporation Constitution, not the Constitution of the Republic. Explain it to me if I am wrong.
Legislative: General Flynn said that there were over 70 members of Congress that were card carrying members of the CCP. In addition, there are many long standing RINOs who are actually democrats but ran and won on the republican ticket (example Colins).
Executive: Well, there real Joseph Biden was actually gone from this earth before Jan 20, 2021. The fake inauguration had the VP go first (no - that is after the POTUS) and the POTUS is to be sworn in at 12 noon (not before as it was with clone Joe). Washington DC is the only place left that is part of the Corporation that came about in 1871 when Gen Grant signed over out nation to the Monarch because of debt - which has long been paid. On July 4, 2020, President Trump removed the United States from under this and re-established the states in the 2nd Declaration of Indepencence with celebration at Mount Rushmore. While the movie was occurring at the WH in DC, President Trump renewed his oath of office at Joint Base Andrews, in Maryland. Trump IS currently the CIC overseeing the takedown of the cabal, working together with over 17 other nations internationally.
As far a Joe - he is clueless and Barry was giving orders from the basement, but think he may be looking out the window in Cuba.
Judicial - The Supreme Court is still running. Justin Clarence Thomas is certainly active...Roberts was compromised but he may be working under the supervision of a US Marshall - not sure on that.
Just because general Flynn said there’s card-carrying Chinese operative doesn’t prove shit. What is that proof? Nothing. The executive, the 21 gun salute bullshit. That’s been debunked. Nothing you just said has any value or substance they’re just words that you claim doesn’t mean anything.
The only problem with this is the fact that the Federal Government is NOT acting in a CONSTITUTIONAL MANNER for COG OR COOG. I’m not advocating for either Derek Johnson or John Herald’s Devolution but anyone with eyes & ears can see that the Federal government is in Constitutional Default.
Nope understood and understand what your saying. But I think that COOP and COG got mixed up with the national emergency. I mean these are emergency action plans we should have these. However, the national emergency is with abuse of powers because it’s so easy for the president to call one . I don’t know why that got mixed up with the continuity of government. The overreach is truly the national emergency in my opinion.
Overreach is an understatement. How can you have COG when nothing is working? Courts are corrupt, Executive Branch is full of freaks, legislative branch is spending us into oblivion. If this is COG I would hate to see what chaos is. IMO chaos is exactly what we have.
Oh, yeah. I see what your saying. No its not COG. Thats what we are saying, we are not in COG, that's the point we are making. Its for emergencies. catastrophic emergencies.
Do you think the who will come over here man with their Second Amendment rights? You know I was in Africa training in Kenya. And I was working with these Kenyan police. They had a very interesting perspective that I’ve never heard before even from an American. They said the only thing keeping the world in check is American Second Amendment rights. Blew my mind. Think about the average American gun owners when they started at the young age in comparison to some UN soldier of some sorts? Let me tell ya I’ve seen other armies 18 other countries and they ain’t coming over here man if they do, it would be a really bad mistake. I don’t care what banners they are under. You see they want you under fear so that you rely on somebody else. Right? Kind of like the military is going to save us? I’m just saying…..
OK, lets says its not Joe Biden, Now what dip shit? LOL .... What are you going to do MAGA From Heaven?? What are you going to do??? How much paint chips did you eat boy?? Are you always this empty of intelligence?
Irrelevant what does that change when it comes to your actions? Your goals don’t change unless your goal is to just sit around and wait for someone to save you then does it matter what you think we’re gonna lose another election and then you’ll be thanked for that one.
Enduring Constitutional Government implies that what you have is a Constitutional Republic Government. Can you honestly say that with a straight face? You don’t see that the Federal government is in Constitutional Default on so many levels?
Yeah? What’s funny or just leave it at that and you don’t explain anything. Because I know for a fact, you don’t have a clue as to what it is. You know it’s people like you that creates the situation that we’re in right now with our country. Do you wanna know why Joe Burns in the office because of your attitude and your ignorance and your gullibility. You guys need to man up and stop taking the easy pass. It’s weak. And it’s causing problems. And it damn sure doesn’t help Trump. You’re actually working against him. Thanks by the way for that.
You don't know because you're not a member of the armed forces. You never read the Law of War manual. You don't work at Iron Mountain. You never read the NDAA or the Patriot Act. You have no idea what's going on. Now... go to Youtube and look up Joe Biden's latest video of him at the Resolute Desk talking about the Debt Ceiling. Tell us why there's a treehouse behind him. When was that installed at the White House? lol
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You guys can’t even tell me how your local government works can you? Who’s your election officials who runs your elections? You guys couldn’t even tell me where one pole station is if you do, I’ll be shocked. I might have a heart attack. Yeah, but we the people not by the military. And I refuse to allow tyrants to take over the government just because we have issues that we can fix. You guys sit here and complain about things that are broken. What have you guys done? Seriously besides sit there breathe air And complain I want to know exactly what you guys have tried because I guarantee you it’s been nothing but hot air out of your mouths. The fact that you guys are promoting and supporting this ideology is extremely dangerous and ignorant and severely lazy it ain’t happening guys. I’m gonna watch you guys do the Walkashame and I’m gonna laugh. It’s gonna be funny.
Answer us this why is adm rodgers and the rest of the team that went into chaynne mountain still locked inside there three years after they went in at the start of covid is it just for fun and games you know as well as i do that is a very long drill and whats is an extend drill
Agreed. In addition, the situation at the border IMO is so far out of the realm of what has ever occurred under our constitution prior, and is causing many to rightly question if we are indeed a country with a constitutional republic government in place. This insanity is making people question their own sanity. Add in a healthy dose of the trans BS and my mind goes toward mass demonic possession as the only explanation. This is f*cking crazy. So, when we hear their might still be a real government and strategy that will undo the shocking damage that has been done, do you see why it seems plausible? I’ve never heard of Derek but Jon Herold seems credible and dedicated to our country. I’m personally tired of hearing that the military is going to “step in”, that’s encouraging us to sit on our couches and watch a damn movie. Sorry but no. If you all at the 17th specs ops group have a better explanation of what is going on I’m all ears. I don’t think there are actors playing Biden. I do think there’s a lot going on behind the scenes and there are a few good people in the House of Representatives that are doing good things. Rather than debunk, what to you suggest we the people should do? I’m acting locally and praying A LOT.
Yes, many people like me are running for school boards, county, and municipal positions. It’s hard to run, but must be done. Do your duty as a citizen and get active!
This line spoke to me as has been on my mind for a long time. "...hearing that the military is going to “step in”, that’s encouraging us to sit on our couches and watch a damn movie. " Derek seems to offer a plausible explanation but now I need to go.and re-read this substack. I do notice a big difference between what Bannon says. which causes me to panic and what Derek says which helps me relax. I don't know what to think anymore. I'm tired of being spun up and wish I could put my head in the sand like so many others I know. I would get more work done, that's for sure. What about Scott Young and Nesara...
Thank you for your thoughtful response. Yes, I agree about getting involved but this is one where I can't get my head around. I see you have written several articles which I will read, but, for now, are you saying Nesara is a hoax?
It’s quite concerning that many people seem unwilling to conduct their own research and seek answers independently. Instead of addressing the facts we present, it appears that the focus is often on pointing out grammar errors and belittling us. Isn’t that odd? We, as experienced professionals in this field, have provided references that clearly demonstrate how these theories cannot fall under continuity of government or continuity of operations. It’s a national effort involving local, tribal, state, and federal entities, each with their own continuity of operations plans tied to national essential functions. This alone debunks both theories. There is no hidden military operation taking place; common sense seems to have been disregarded. The individuals you’ve been listening to, one with less than two years in the army and another with no military or government service experience, lack credibility. Jon with Devolution, for instance, sources news articles for his references. This is our final attempt to present the truth. If you fail to see it, the current state of our country rests on your shoulders. No excuses. We are tired of complaints about issues that can be addressed. We are not seeking followers; we are seeking free thinkers. How much money has blind hope made for you? None, it costs you, or some of you. How much does it cost them?? None, they profit off your false hopes. This situation has become ridiculous..
Trump said he is a wartime president. He also said that we have been attacked worse than Pearl Harbor and 9/11. That’s quite a statement to anyone who has served in the military. Since he has the highest intelligence information and knowingly leaves his post as CIC and capitulates to an enemy invasion, according to the UMCJ that is an act of dereliction of duty and treason. That makes him a war criminal if there isn’t a PLAN in place. I understand your points on COG and COOP however that is in the context of a legally controlled government. In irregular warfare, that is thrown out. You guys are spitballers like us, like Patel Patriot et al. No one in this community knows the PLAN if there is one. No leaks. All war is deception. You need to humble yourself in that respect. In this community we don’t attack others because that creates division. The fact that you call out Herold and Johnson immediately is suspect. This community has been deceived enough and anyone who thinks they have the answers, they don’t. I suggest that you contact Herold and ask if you can go on his Devolution Power Hour podcast to respectfully debate COG. That would be a tell.
Hey PG, S, do you have anything intelligent to say or do you have any references that you want to present instead of just talking because everything you just posted is wrong. You can think it’s not, but it is.
Major General Arnold was a brilliant military strategist. Unfortunately, he chose the losing side. Time will tell when the fog clears who is right and who is wrong. Only a handful know. We are trying to understand the crumbs that are given to us to maintain our sanity. You can attack Herold and others like myself for our opinions, but it doesn’t change anything. My trust is in my Lord and not man. Go in peace.
I understand your perspective, but let me clarify a few points. It's important to note that being a wartime president requires a formal declaration of war through a legal process, which has not taken place. Claims of a secret war are unfounded. Regarding the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice), it is unlikely that the President of the United States would be charged under it. As for the Constitution, it remains in effect and is not suspended. Derek Johnson, whom you follow, may have discussed COG (Continuity of Government) and COOP (Continuity of Operations), which are established programs with legal frameworks, not mere speculation. These programs ensure the stability and functioning of the government in various scenarios.
They are the national continuity policy, Dude, designed for emergencies and disasters. In case of a national emergency, it would be declared through a legal process to ensure public awareness. While you may continue to hold different perspectives, I believe there are important aspects to consider. Deception may be a part of warfare, but our battle is not solely built on deception. It is unnecessary for me to prove anything, and if my words do not resonate with you, feel free to disengage. My intention is to challenge your mindset and encourage active participation in serving our country. We cannot rely on others to save us; it is up to us to take action. While there may not be a perfect plan in place, the military always strategizes and adapts. As someone who has retired from the military, I understand the importance of thorough planning. Your leader, Derek, has limited military experience, which may affect the coherence of his arguments. I appreciate your engagement, as it allows a larger audience to witness this exchange, which I find quite intriguing.
Oh, he didn’t tell you. Yeah we were the first to go against Patel patriot and many times asked him to debate guess what he didn’t do you did your boss Derek he didn’t either. Perhaps you can go ask him for me tell him I’ll debate him anywhere anytime That would be actually awesome but you know what they do. They block all they call it divisive. So yeah opposition huh?? Those guys are calling for unconstitutional ideology. They want the military to take over the government dude that’s like and you wanna support that so good luck.
Ignorance may bring comfort, my friend, so why don’t you indulge in your fantasies while true patriots take action to accomplish what needs to be done? Perhaps one day you will return, enlightened by the reality that we, the determined, are making significant strides.
I’ve seen some amazing strides in our county Republican Party which has firmly been taken over by America first and booted the RINOs. And we are surrounded by blue counties in one of the most progressive areas in the nation. It is acting locally and it’s hard but rewarding. The RINOs aren’t happy but they are losing. We’ve formally rejected the election as fraudulent and voted that the Covid shot should be outlawed. I read about COG but since it doesn’t seem to be happening one way or another, action has to be taken now to prepare for 2024. The Jon Herold group does have some extremely gifted minds and they are engaging a lot of people, but at this point I don’t care if there is such a thing as devolution or not, we can still work together. I have no need to be right, God is in charge and it will go the way way it will, I will be doing my part. There is the fact that Kash Patel, a credible source, has denied COG theory, always in the background to remember.
Well, said friend, there has been huge strides. The issue that I have with COG is this, it’s being miss interpreted. Every level of government has continuity of government, local, tribal state federal within those levels every department has COG plans as well.
It is an emergency action plan, continuity of operations, continuity of government it’s not a military operation plan, nor is it a secret operation plan. devolution is when you’re Plans gets interrupted by the emergency threat right, so if you get if you’re a fire fighting team in the fire overwhelms you well you devolve back to a position to where you can still maintain your national essential function. The way John Herold implies is that it’s totally different. It’s like not even a thing. Well I agree there’s gifted minds they’re not Paying attention or they’re distracted and I’m gonna go with distracted and I kind of feel it’s intentional. I’m pushing back hard on the theory’s man because we need votes focused and we need those votes on the local level. No matter what threat you can imagine deep state cabal Whatever drug cartels whatever it is, they will end up in your community and that that’s what you’re going to have to deal with him. My thought processes go to your communities strengthen them now, in force accountability learn the system. Like, for example, who are your election officials like all of them from your county all the way up to the Secretary of State. What kind of machines do you have kind of machine voting laws do you have etc.. We need that because that’s gonna support everything else. The deep state started at the local levels. Look at George Soros, where is he dumping millions and millions of dollars? Local government.
I think there’s been a lot of interesting exchanges like the one between Pence and Chris Miller back in 2020, the way Biden’s handlers keep taking on Trump policies after bashing them, and there’s always the Bidens getting locked out of the White House, that was awesome. Trump set some stuff up , I’m sure of it. Kash is very confident but is telling us to get busy at the same time. There’s going to be some surprises but to the extent of full levels of layers of government, idk. I agree we can’t get too comfortable like kids who will be taken care of. Those people are scared and we need to get them moving. And take care of the older generation, the ones who need our help. Like my poor mom and dad! On another note, the damn border should be a wake up call for more and more people. This fentanyl sh*t is insane. That being said, the infighting is very dangerous for us patriots.
Hey what did you make of the you tube ops group video featuring the ghost you used in this article, of course without the frog face? That was...interesting.
This article, strangely, appears to miss, or dismiss, the notion of the usurpation of our Constitutional Republic by actors both foreign and domestic during the 2020 Presidential election. If that does not constitute a national emergency, please explain to me what does?
You have provided some valuable information. However, Jon Herold has also provided valuable information which I find difficult to classify, as you have, as misinformation! I consider both yours and his to be merely information among other information. Jon’s information is boldly framed in the context of an insurrection by foreign and treasonous, domestic actors. Your information skirts around that issue and, in fact, seems to imply that everything was fine with the 2020 election and now we just have to move on and elect a President in 2024! If there ever was any MISinformation, it is that the 2020 elections were “safe and secure!” We do indeed have a national emergency! We can’t move on to 2024 until that is fixed!
Rather than getting hung up on a discussion about Jon's definition of devolution, it may be more productive to talk about the essence, or perhaps the intent, of this 17th SOG article.
The main concern that I referenced in my original reply to the article is how it avoids the actual reason why Jon Herold would have even gone down the rabbit hole of devolution in the first place. That whole endeavor is based on the idea that our government was taken over by an occupying enemy (consisting of both foreign actors and domestic actors who were in on the operation) through a coordinated election fraud scheme.
If true, that constitutes a national emergency the likes of which this nation has never seen! That is the essence behind Jon's "dig" into the possibility that devolution was enacted to ensure COG, COOP, NEF, etc.
The above article seems to skirt around that scenario as a possible reason for enacting devolution and appears to limit the scope of national emergencies to natural disasters, nuclear attacks, or the like. It almost comes across as a deflection, or obfuscation of what the real essence of research into devolution is all about!
Particularly damning is the underlying notion that 'we need to forget about 2020 and just move on to elect a president in 2024.' That in itself seems to be an attempt to negate the possibility that the United States of America is now under the administrative control of an occupying enemy.
If you will openly address this concern, perhaps THEN, we can have a productive discussion.
Chris, your response tells me that I not only DID NOT miss the point of the article, but indeed that I hit the nail on the head regarding the point of the article.
Because you seem to refuse to even mention the real reason behind the devolution dig (that being the overthrow of the US government by an occupying enemy through election fraud) you are deflecting FROM it!
Once again, you are dismissing the 2020 event and attempting to shade reality. Saying that Trump has moved on to 2024 is not a good argument for dismissing this entire topic of discussion.
Being "hung up on the 2020 election" is one of the most important things upon which American patriots need to focus. You appear to be hung up on definitions that mean little or nothing compared to the reality in which we find ourselves as a nation. Your obfuscation and deflection of the subject matter makes me question which team you are actually on.
Come on, Chris! Talk about the overthrow of our Executive Branch by an occupying enemy! Then, we can expand that to discuss the subversion of the Judicial and Legislative branches.
At no point have I stated that devolution had anything to do with elections. However, in this case, it may have EVERYTHING to do with the RESULTS of a fraudulent election, namely, the overthrow of our government! You keep avoiding this topic, as if by even addressing it you would be stricken with some deadly disease. Believe me, you will be just fine! ADDRESS THE RESULTS OF THE 2020 ELECTION and relate how devolution might be in play since said election has resulted in perhaps the greatest national emergency we have ever faced!
To continue to deflect and insist that we should forget about 2020 and move on to 2024 is to disavow what millions of Americans already recognize as the truth about 2020.
I agree that local involvement, moving forward, is important. But, one of the main points behind the devolution series is not that the military is going to come in with guns blazing and take out this occupying enemy. Instead, the players in devolution will ensure that there is enough of a country left intact for us to take back!
Dear 17th Special Operations Group scribe, thank you for your resolute explanation. Jon Herold is a Patriot, first & foremost. I thank Jon for his work as a journalist and organizer of patriotic warriors. To call him out as you have is a shame. I don’t believe he has mislead anyone. We are all responsible for analyzing, discerning, and making up our own minds about information we digest, including yours.
So patriots censor other patriots for having an opposing view? You do not know the whole story.
Does patriots feel threatened by other patriots? This was his doing, and why isn't he here telling me this? You don't have a clue whats going on. And sorry, we are not on the same team. He is hurting Trump , making MAGA look bad, shredding the meani9ng of the Constitution, to which I lost 13 brothers for. He is not the guy you think he is,
My point is not about the veracity of his information. We’re on the same side, unless someone is a spy. Jon Herold is a Patriot, not someone misleading intentionally. Again, individuals should read, discern, and most of all keep the big picture, the 40,000 foot view in the forefront. The picture changes quickly. Yes, I read the whole post. Peace
I dont follow derek closely but the bit that i do , i dont recall him ever saying things are secret , in fact he says the opposite , that everything is open source out there. Secondly , and correct me if u addressed this and i just missed it , but the military is clearly doin something behind the scenes so to speak cause how else does one explain the hundreds of gaffs made or outright violation of regs. Like, all the military personel turning their backs on biden at inaugaration , some even spitting on the ground, or bidens plane on inagaration not military comin in smokin , sputtering on the runway, the wreath transfer was done incorrectly, the 21 gun salute was done incorrectly , the seal on kamala harris' plane falling off when she landed , generals saluting generals , military men in non reg uniforms , some with covers some without , some shaved some with full on beards , biden carrying his own bags being dropped off at airport like some regular civilian , biden not having the proper vehicles in his motorcade , while trump has a real motorcade with ambulance per protocol, biden not having proper call signs on planes .... the list goes on and on thats just a few . So there are all these things that have never ever happened in the history of our country on top of there are all these military code violations , which as u know the military does not make mistakes like that , nor do they allow behavior like that . So clearly the military is involved pulling the strings in some form or fashion or none of this would be going on .
There’s the 21 gun salute again. Right? Army regulation 600–25 salutes honors, and curtesy also NAVY regulations, flags, pennants, honors, ceremonies and customs, also marine corpse order 3700.40 ceremonies and honor, look it up. It is not required for the president to receive a 21 gun salute. The president may waive the salute. And I’ve said this before, the military may also choose not to give the salute if they believe that the president has done something to warrant it. the military may choose not to give the salute if the president has been convicted of a crime or they have been impeached for example. The military can choose not to give a 21 gun salute. Has this happened before? Yes, it has, 1974 President Richard Nixon was impeached by the House of representatives for obstruction of justice and abuse of power. He did not receive a 21 gun salute another example 2009 President Barack Obama was awarded the Nobel peace prize some military objected to him, receiving the award arguing that he had not yet done enough to deserve it. As a result some basis chose not to give Obama a 21 gun salute. That brings us to Biden. Do you know why he did not receive a 21 gun salute? Simple research will tell you the reason for this is that the 21 gun salute is typically given to a president upon arrival and departure from a military installation or upon entering or leaving a building or an enclosed in which the president is present on inauguration day, President Biden arrived at the White House by helicopter, which is not considered a military installation. Also did not enter or leave any buildings or enclosures on inauguration day or he would’ve been eligible to receive a 21 gun salute.
ok fair point but thats just one thing , and i onlly listed about 10 things out of the 100's upon 100's of irregular unprecedented actions that have happened since biden took office, that we have never seen happen before in the history of our country . The statistical probability that all those things are merely happenstance is off the charts against it , next ur gonna tell me thats the same joe biden from when he was vp. point being yes im sure you can provide counter points to a few things that happened or maybe even explain some away , but you cant do it for all of em cause theres just to many . ur hung up on the 21 gun salute ok but theres 900 other things that are unprecedented , irregular, violations etc . one can not just sweep those under the rug and say aw thats just a coincidence , no way there is to many its like a flood of "coincidences" and then one is jist not bein honest about things
So I’m kind of chalking it up as Biden’s shitty president, right? I mean everything you’re mentioning is results of the shitty president with a shitty staff I mean we weren’t we’re not expecting Fine to perform good at all I wasn’t.
Do you know what would be cool? Is if we spent all this energy studying your local government like I can help you man I don’t know if you’re a TruthSocial or whatever you can DM me and I’ll help you detail your local government. It’s actually kind of fun I know it sounds nerdy but anyways we’re putting all this energy in to what if‘s and shit they probably will never find out to be honest.
ya i gotcha i really am on board with all u guys say and believe and im not even gonna try and get into the specifics of COG, COOP etc. i leave that to the military guys like u and derek , my only point is there is gotta be military behind the scenes in some form or fashion to do some of the heavy lifting while we all do what we can locally , working from the bottom up while they work from the top down and we meet in middle . im doin everything i can here in my town as i believe many others are . thanks for all u guys takin the time to put together these essays
See, I never said that military wasn’t behind the scenes. OK I didn’t say that. I said the military isn’t going to take over our federal government, that’s a coup.
Here’s the thing, why am I pushing continuity of government because Derek and John are saying that is what triggered their theory OK?
So what does that mean for Derek? He says the constitution is suspended. Which intern triggered the law of war manual, that’s not true that can’t happen. Continuity of government or continuity of operations preserves . Constitutional government, its right there in our references. We didn’t come up with that. That’s the actual program. And then John theory is similar. Somehow President Trump devolve the government down to the state or something From an election fraud. Why would you devolve? Because you only devolve when you’re threatened by the emergency or the incident, furthermore, you can’t initiate continuity of government or cotton. You have operations without the public knowing, why? Because we are part of the process again that’s also in the references that we left in the article ,do you understand what I’m saying here?
So now we just debunked that narrative. Which means the constitution is in play. Which means the military can’t mess with civilians they don’t have arrest powers. The process of working with civil authorities is specific there’s doctrine, publications, regulations, and a process for that to happen. One of them being a national emergency , and that takes a process, all of that being said the public would know. So the shit piles up when you start looking at processes and the actual programs and what their purposes are.
They’re playing sleight of hand here. The twisting words in creating processes that don’t exist.
And here you guys are and I’m not trying to be a jerk trying to figure shit out, right? Wasting time when you can be spending it on figuring out who your election officials are or what kind of machines are you guys using? Who are they made by? What are the electronic voting laws in your state and in your county in your city township etc. who your mayor and city Council is or whatever type of government you live in, digging on your congressman or senator, figuring out ways to influence them contact them. You see local government involvement starts with learning the system. When you learn the system, you can become a political insurgent and infiltrate effectively, legally and with precision but we’re all distracted right now figuring out all these shit theories.
That is my whole point. That is why I am attacking these guys so fucking hard because this is a big deal. And I’ll add to this they’re getting paid for it dude!
And what time of day is a President to be sworn in? What time did they do Biden's?? And what about Global Resource Systems LLC and those millions and millions of IP addresses just vanishing 1 minute before Biden's oath? (Business Insider may 1, 2021)
This is another Derek piece of disinformation. The constitution does not specify what time the president is sworn in.....only that his term begins at noon. So doesn’t it make sense he should be sworn in before noon so at noon his term begins? That is one of Derek’s most foolish claims.....and he has a LOT of them.
No matter what when that time is the next president is president I mean that is not come on man. How about this, have you tried looking up? How many presidents have been late on their inauguration? Why don’t you try that. You’ll be surprised at what you find.
People are just trying to fit all the pieces that they have been hearing about into where there’s devolution of government the way they understand it. It’s like playing telephone when you were a kid, but everybody’s in different circles, if that makes sense.
Actually, Biden received a 21 gun salute. I made a video where I literally number all 21 fires. You don’t see all of them because the camera cuts away but you can still hear them.
Remember how many times Trump brought up that we are at war with an “invisible enemy”, and kept bringing up the 1917 Spanish Flu?
My impression was that the ‘invisible enemy’ Trump was referring to was not a microscopic bioweapon causing a plague.
Thinking along those lines, it is not a leap of imagination to consider that the deep state has declared war on the constitutional republic and We the People, and globally all of humanity.
What does that mean? We’re just talking about continuity of operations and continuity of government. in the that way Devolution describes it isn’t what’s going on. It’s not how it works.
Then what good does COG do if we are continuing a government that has been hijacked and converted to a foreign corporation (since 1871). We have just been playing in a Sims video for 150 years. Outside of the framework of the whole sick system a new Republic needs to arise again out of the ashes. This is where common law and the syntax come into play. IMO. And this is why the needed No Such Agency.
The Columbia Act of 1871 is an intriguing topic that requires a thorough understanding of certain terms and processes related to local governments. To provide a comprehensive explanation, I will refer to specific sections in "We the People" Part 3, particularly Section 1.3 on How Local Governments Begin and Section 3.2 on Home Rule, Incorporated and Unincorporated communities. Please note that the information presented is based on my research and understanding.
The United States Constitution grants states the authority to establish and manage local governments, with the only requirement being that these governments do not violate the Constitution or citizen's bill of rights. The process through which local governments are created is called the charter process, which differs in each state and is outlined in state constitutions.
As discussed in Section 1.3, the charter process begins with citizens requesting a charter. It is important to note that the state government does not initiate this process but rather approves it and sets guidelines. The charter process grants local governments greater autonomy and authority, enabling them to provide services such as fire and police departments. Moreover, it empowers local governments to enact laws, ordinances, and zoning regulations. It is crucial to understand that the charter process commences with a citizens' petition, typically requiring a two-thirds majority vote.
Incorporated local governments are directly associated with increased autonomy and authority, as they possess the ability to formulate their own laws. This decentralized system enables citizens at the local level to govern themselves. Conversely, unincorporated local governments have less autonomy and rely on the county and state for services.
The charter process, which has been utilized since the colonial era and is still in practice today, is the mechanism by which local governments become incorporated, granting them greater autonomy and authority. This process, initiated by citizens through a petition, is granted by the state.
Now, turning to the Columbia Act of 1871, it is important to note that the District of Columbia (DC) does not have a state since it is a federal district. Citizens residing in DC sought autonomy and authority to govern themselves and draft their own laws, similar to other local governments. However, due to the absence of a state, the charter process in DC required federal government involvement. Instead of a traditional charter, the federal government enacted the Columbia Act of 1871, incorporating DC as a local government. It is crucial to understand that this act did not modify or alter the US Constitution in any way; rather, it followed the same principles of a charter process but at the federal level.
Similar acts have been passed for other federal districts, such as the Puerto Rico Federal Relations Act of 1950 and the Guam Organic Act of 1950. These acts established self-governance for Puerto Rico and Guam, respectively, granting them limited autonomy under US federal law. Additionally, the term "home rule" is often used to refer to a local government's ability to exercise certain powers without interference from the state government.
It is worth noting that some local governments refer to their charters as constitutions, as they serve a similar purpose in outlining the type of governing body utilized, akin to how the US Constitution outlines the federal government.
If you have any further questions or would like to explore my research in greater detail, I would be more than happy to provide additional information. I respect differing opinions, and if you prefer to agree to disagree, I completely understand.
I thought the 1917 Spanish flu reference was to the federal banking system and what it did during that pandemic but I can’t link them, the fed bank started in 1913. I know trump wants that fed bank gone.
The United States has been taken over in a Coup with assistance from a foreign nation. COG (Continuity of Government) is a plan to counter a attack that can lead to the destruction of our Constitution and nation.
Nice try ....but I don’t remember President Trump recognizing 2 guys from an audience & introducing them to the world like he did Jon ( Herold ) who by the way was seated in the VIP section...
Are you referring to Jon’s old intro where Trump is saying “Where is John?” Jon Herold dod that as a joke and said so on his show one night. I was just trying to be funny.
Whoa bud, you ok?? Why are you so angry?? Does the truth really hurt that bad dude? You know deep down Man Patel patriot has said many times on his videos I know because I’ve watched them say that that’s not him. That is John Kennedy. You must be new to the whole Devolution Theory. I’m guessing wet, 3 to 4 months maybe?
He did! Courts across the nation have been corrupted. But little by slow more people are understanding the threat to our nation. Also, Mr. Harolds work as I have read and heard he never said Trump was still President, in fact it is the opposite. But Trump would be in communication. This will be a good discussion if the emotionalism and slander is taken out of it, in my opinion.
The purpose of your article is in your opening. What stands out is your intent to object to Jon Herald and Derek Johnson research. That’s almost like being in battle, criticizing your mates, focusing on what THEY are doing, and weakening the objective. Why don’t you just share your material, and let the people decide. I saw in comment where you challenge debate. I heard Derek say he would debate anyone. Tell you what, If he accepts, let us know, I wanna watch. OR you can use your skill, write, and let people decide. In the mean time, I’ll let you know a wee about myself. For a short period of time, I was a Democrat. You can thank the Bush family for that. Anyway my point is THEY STICK TOGETHER like glue. Try it, focus on the battle at hand, and charge the opponent, not each other. If Derek, Jon, or you where damaging, the White Hats would let you know. My opinion is you aren’t, I like your writing, I subscribed, I like Jon and Badlands Media, I like Derek. You’ll make a great team.
I know they stick together like glue. Because they have the same motive, which is Socialism basically. We don’t need to unite together on an idea that trashes the constitution. You forget, no matter if we agree or not, that is the one document that unites us as Americans. It’s all there really is to it. And I will not unite with somebody. That trash is the constitution. Sorry not happening.
I am in no way being combative. You need to relax. You came in here making accusations with your arrogance. Look at your first post. And this isn't arrogance?,
"LOL? What? That is your reply? " Get off your high horse....
And Jon does think Trump is still president. How can Trump devolve the government like Jon claims without allegedly being president?
We presented evidence cleanly and succinctly without emotional baggage. We called out his grift. plain and simple. You guys are so hopped up on unconstitutional hopium, you all reeeeee when your challenged. Good, be done. Bye. This is what all you cult followers do. REEEEEEE, then run away emotionally, then accuse me of it. lol. Im glad everyone will see this. Look mat all the posts you guys make. Every one of them got crushed with facts and logic. lol. glorious...
Well, it’s unfortunate that you don’t even know what divided is. What unites us more important. And what John and Derek and their theory proposes is absolute division.
I am in no way being combative. You need to relax. You came in here making accusations with your arrogance. Look at your first post. And this isn't arrogance?,
"LOL? What? That is your reply? " Get off your high horse....
And Jon does think Trump is still president. How can Trump devolve the government like Jon claims without allegedly being president?
We presented c cleanly and succinctly without emotional baggage
I forgot to mention that these EO’s actually mean that all voting machines are illegal for the 2024 Federal Election, so let’s see if this Federal government which is in Constitutional Default does anything about it.
Your research is shallow, using a circular rather than actual government documents and executive orders. You misrepresent Jon Herold's Devolution Series which is well researched and documented. He does not claim Trump is still president. Devolution is much more complex than that, is Constitutional and necessary when every institution is captured. Of course by its very nature Devolution is enacted behind the scenes.
What executive orders? You sit here and say my research the shal, oh it’s you, who can’t read the links. In the article. Oh yeah, that’s right. The shallow follower.
I do not miss represent Patel Patriots, Devolution, trash, unconstitutional ideology. Continuity of operations, continuity of government is solely for preserving constitutional government not suspending it, I don’t care what executive order you think, Trump signed, none of them say to suspend the constitution, ma’am. You’re sounding extremely ridiculous right now. So I’m glad that you posted in here so everybody could see. Furthermore, the national essential function number one is to preserve the constitution! No number two is visible leader ship! So it is you, ma’am, and all of these followers that are blind and honestly part of the problem and part of the reason why our country‘s in a spot that it’s in because you guys are so gullible and so shallow in your research, which you just proved because you didn’t even click on all the links, so good luck , have a good day
my research is shallow? Well, obviously you didn’t even click on all the links in the article. So who shallow researching? Hey, I get it like your Hopium is getting sucked out but um I’m afraid to tell you derricks gonna probably go down here in the next few days, you should go on Twitter and look right now as we speak because his unit is calling him out for lies. Yeah, he should right now discover here, Kaitlyn journey, he didn’t he made boarded straight out of Fort sill, yeah so yeah I Michel the researcher? I guess you didn’t see my credentials either right? So what is amazingly baffling is that you people would just rather believe in something because it’s easier on you right because you can’t except reality and do what needs to be done in life. That’s what’s unfortunate
The only thing that makes me suspicious of Derek is the list of people he follows on Twitter: 97% are beautiful women (their thumbnails are, anyway.) Seems like an odd pattern.
Thank you for being straightforward with your opinions and reasoning, and also giving us your professional background experience.
I do believe that Jon and Derek are acting in good faith, based on their understanding. I do not consider either of them a grifter. (Please spell Jon's name correctly, Herold).
As for the purpose of COG and COOP as you clearly stated, it is based on continuing the Constitution. However, in 2020 America was attacked by enemies, foreign and domestic, on multiple fronts, with the result being our country was overthrown. We are currently an occupied country, not under our Constitution, UNLESS, plans were set in place by Trump beforehand.
Agree , Trump is a war time president , as our County is being held captive by deep state power. The military is running things because we’re at war. That’s one issue you didn’t address. In normal circumstances, I can understand your concerns, however , this is a war and America is under attack.
Biden didn’t get an inauguration. The White House and DC is a ghost town. Nothing is normal since this man was placed as “president “. Everything is wrong , because it’s not legitimate . We all know it .
PLEASE stop listening to Derek Johnson. He misinterprets everything. He’s also a pathological liar.
lalalalalalalalalala. - get a life
You just remember this when you finally realize NONE of this stuff is really happening
Can you give a couple of examples.
Proof?
What would you like proof of?
Undeniable proof coming. 57 minutes
Http://DerekJohnsonuncovered.weebly.com
Noice!
No such word...
Your attorney's post was weak at best and mostly shows a complete lack of understanding of how military law and code works.....you were scammed
How about you point out where it was weak what part? And what are you talking about? Because I call OU Derek followers out and you guys can never answer the question. What is Derek Johnson‘s theory? How did the government initiate martial law or how did trump do it? And where exactly does it say that the commander-in-chief and the president are separate positions? How does Marshal login initiate it? You can’t answer any of that shit. So take your childish and easily manipulated brain elsewhere because you keep making these very ignorant and childish responses you’re going to get hammered. You’re gonna get hammered with some logic, and the only way you’re going to respond is in a childish manner like you’re already doing. You guys can’t explain your own theory. Let’s have it.
I didn’t hire him. He volunteered to write a rebuttal. He’s one of MANY people who live in reality. The problem is, you’ve been brainwashed. Just go drink some more of Derek’s Kool-Aid and leave me the F alone
This website is hilarious ……the author needs to go back to kindergarten
False propaganda
Every President since WW2 has been a wartime President as WW2 was never officially declared over.
Understood, thats not what COOP and COG is for. And you cant do those in secret.
In January of 2017 under CISA (cisa.gov), The Department of Homeland security made election infrastructure part of critical infrastructure. Then on September 12th 2018 President Trump signed executive order 13848 titled imposing certain sanctions in the event of foreign interference in the United States election (trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov) When you combine the two it covers domestic and foreign election interference. Any of you know Gregg Phillips? Thomas Drake, Tore Maras, Sidney Powell? What about General Flynn recently saying nothing's going to be done to correct the coup in America, everyone needs to put pressure on their governors and if you don't you can kiss 2024 goodbye, it's going to get stolen again. Or What about General Nakasone making a public statement after Kari Lake's election got stolen saying in a roundabout way "we've been studying these thieves for a while and we're still gathering information." I'm just thinking to myself, If this is truly a military operation (Q or otherwise) using 5GW (ghost in the machine) and it's supposed to be a controlled demolition as to prevent civil war...The demolition's going way too slow! Most people that were awake are going back to sleep and they're losing hope. Just stating the facts from the grassroots here in Dallas Texas where I am a precinct chair and an election judge.
None of that has anything to do with COOP or COG, I say that because thats the basis of these theories.
All this information about the illegality of the machines is just coming out. Arizona is just the first domino, I believe. California will be next.
Here is Trump's Continuity of Governance (post below). The attorney who wrote the piece for lalalalal does not know squat.https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-governance-integration-federal-mission-resilience/
And where’s your law license?
Which enemy's? We have a lot. How did they attack? Whats an act of war? Which foreign enemy's? Which domestic? Which fronts? What part of the country was overthrown? What do you think has changed from 2020 and 10 or 20 years before that? This is all distracting you from answering those questions. Now, you can get angry at me and tell me that I’m in denial, but I’m not. I want to know exactly who it was. We cannot assume it was China; we don’t know for sure, and neither does Jon or Derek. And this so-called domestic enemy—what exactly do you mean? Are you referring to the deep state, the swamp, or the uniparty? We need names, arrests, trials, a jury, and the whole process. And what about the front? Was it a digital attack or a physical one? I want to understand the specifics so we can take measures to prevent it from happening again. Do you see the point I’m trying to make here? COG and COP are not the appropriate platforms to counter our enemies. It’s as simple as that. Making excuses all day long won’t work, and I refuse to deceive you. This won’t be an easy task.
Jon, or as I call him, Patel Patriot, is just a grifter in my eyes. I don’t care to spell his name correctly because he’s a distraction. He’s fooling you and thousands of other Americans with subversive tactics. It’s infuriating, and that’s the reality, my friend. It’s uncomfortable for me to witness people being fooled by the largest psychological operation ever imposed on our country. I don’t claim to be a saint, but Jon and Derek are unquestionably puppets of this operation.
This 17th SPG is no better than the Lincoln Project.
> I do believe that Jon and Derek are acting in good faith, based on their understanding.
If their understanding is incomplete maybe they didn't do very good, or very deep, research. Bias, or just plain ignorance, is a plague in the world today. One problem I noticed is most people never do very good research, nor research all sides of an issue. For a full understanding it is necessary to research all sides of an issue. That's what my 1970s liberal education taught me.
Liberalism is very different now, it's the opposite of what it was in the 1970s.
We still have 3 branches, and as far as I can tell, the representative branch is neither representing the interests of the American people nor the integrity of our border.
The Durham report and the Twitter files paint a very clear picture of the true scale of the deep corruption of our whole government at every level, from local to state and federal.
It seems obvious that Derek Johnson has some serious issues, and is actively misdirecting people.
Jon's devolution theory is just that, a theory, and he admits as much. Johnson, on the other hand, becomes enraged when anyone dares to question him or propose alternate theories.
Bottom line, massive fraud was committed during the 2020 election, and the issue of election integrity has not been addressed, let alone remedied, to say nothing of the behavior of various 3 letter agencies and their willful , repeated disregard for the law.
Something is very broken in this country, both politically and culturally, and much of it can be traced directly to multiple bad actors in all branches of government, as well as media and finance.
If the election fraud is not rectified, then there is no way Trump will be allowed to regain the presidency, no matter how many people vote for him. The same actors that "fortified" the 2020 election have openly stated they intend to do the same in 2024.
From my limited perspective, it's hard to see a way out of this abyss, and I can understand why many patriots latch onto Jon and Derek's theories.
Americans are horribly demoralized right now, and millions of us don't see the path out of the corruption. It is simply too extensive and powerful.
I hope I'm wrong, but events over the last 7 years, including Covid hysteria, have made it difficult to remain totally positive.
Thank you for verbalizing exactly how I feel.
I agree that Johnson makes no sense. I don't buy into his arguments at all. He clearly has problems.
My point, and again, I admit I have a limited perspective as an average citizen, is that the fraud in 2020 was obvious and extensive. If it is not addressed and remedied, then how will Trump, or any other patriot, fix anything?
The corruption reaches all levels of government. I don't doubt that there are good people in every agency, but how does one defeat bad actors at the highest level of every branch of government when they break the laws at will?
They have made it clear they will do whatever it takes to stop Trump, including "fortifying" the next election like they did in 2024. Those are their words, not mine.
How will they be stopped?
I think that Kari Lake’s example and the seemingly overwhelming amount of solid evidence she has will set some precedents. If she can get to the Supreme Court and they have the guts to do the right thing if the evidence is there, that will open the floodgates. If your of the praying kind, spend some time praying she wins and Arizona’s cheating program is rectified. We need divine intervention. Then Kari can be governor until she’s Trumps VP!
So how many years of service does Derrick Johnson have in the Army? I am curious because when i was in the Army i never heard folks say they are “retiring” with just a couple years in service. His verbiage just doesnt allign with the verbiage i was accustomed to or used when i served. He becomes unhinged when someone questions anything he puts out on any platform. He also has a condescending way of talking down to people as well. Didnt take long for me to figure this guy out, he puts out alot of misinformation and just blatant lies.
He makes perfect sense if you are wise enough to understand him...
Omfg… let me guess, your what, 55 to 65 years old?
Or if your susceptible of falling for a cult leader.
I will definitely be voting, and 2020 made my family and I get much more directly involved in local politics, including city council and school boards.
All the election theft machinery and actors are still in place in most states. 2020 was stolen. I see little to prevent another stolen election in 2024.
I think they all made their vows to the corporation therefore they are not beholden to the constitution. That’s what Clif High mentioned. Going in they did not understand this...but we’re quickly enlightened. There’s only one way in and no way out. This means the whole thing has to come down because the Constitution says any laws that are repugnant to the constitution will be null and void. Trump in good conscience could not even accept the inauguration. It would have been accepting the terms of the Corporation Constitution, not the Constitution of the Republic. Explain it to me if I am wrong.
Legislative: General Flynn said that there were over 70 members of Congress that were card carrying members of the CCP. In addition, there are many long standing RINOs who are actually democrats but ran and won on the republican ticket (example Colins).
Executive: Well, there real Joseph Biden was actually gone from this earth before Jan 20, 2021. The fake inauguration had the VP go first (no - that is after the POTUS) and the POTUS is to be sworn in at 12 noon (not before as it was with clone Joe). Washington DC is the only place left that is part of the Corporation that came about in 1871 when Gen Grant signed over out nation to the Monarch because of debt - which has long been paid. On July 4, 2020, President Trump removed the United States from under this and re-established the states in the 2nd Declaration of Indepencence with celebration at Mount Rushmore. While the movie was occurring at the WH in DC, President Trump renewed his oath of office at Joint Base Andrews, in Maryland. Trump IS currently the CIC overseeing the takedown of the cabal, working together with over 17 other nations internationally.
As far a Joe - he is clueless and Barry was giving orders from the basement, but think he may be looking out the window in Cuba.
Judicial - The Supreme Court is still running. Justin Clarence Thomas is certainly active...Roberts was compromised but he may be working under the supervision of a US Marshall - not sure on that.
Just because general Flynn said there’s card-carrying Chinese operative doesn’t prove shit. What is that proof? Nothing. The executive, the 21 gun salute bullshit. That’s been debunked. Nothing you just said has any value or substance they’re just words that you claim doesn’t mean anything.
Start with Mitch McConnell you lame brain
The only problem with this is the fact that the Federal Government is NOT acting in a CONSTITUTIONAL MANNER for COG OR COOG. I’m not advocating for either Derek Johnson or John Herald’s Devolution but anyone with eyes & ears can see that the Federal government is in Constitutional Default.
Nope understood and understand what your saying. But I think that COOP and COG got mixed up with the national emergency. I mean these are emergency action plans we should have these. However, the national emergency is with abuse of powers because it’s so easy for the president to call one . I don’t know why that got mixed up with the continuity of government. The overreach is truly the national emergency in my opinion.
Overreach is an understatement. How can you have COG when nothing is working? Courts are corrupt, Executive Branch is full of freaks, legislative branch is spending us into oblivion. If this is COG I would hate to see what chaos is. IMO chaos is exactly what we have.
I guess I still have hope for its purpose? However, hope in one hand....
Ok, good point, lol.
And let’s not forget that this installed wrecking ball in the White House is ready to Unconstitutionally hand over our Sovereignty to the WHO.
HOW IS THAT COG?
Oh, yeah. I see what your saying. No its not COG. Thats what we are saying, we are not in COG, that's the point we are making. Its for emergencies. catastrophic emergencies.
C'mon, kid. A bioweapon attack was launched on the US. You sound fully vaxxed and boosted.
That is one of the things that keeps me up at night, the damn WHO. Evil personified.
Do you think the who will come over here man with their Second Amendment rights? You know I was in Africa training in Kenya. And I was working with these Kenyan police. They had a very interesting perspective that I’ve never heard before even from an American. They said the only thing keeping the world in check is American Second Amendment rights. Blew my mind. Think about the average American gun owners when they started at the young age in comparison to some UN soldier of some sorts? Let me tell ya I’ve seen other armies 18 other countries and they ain’t coming over here man if they do, it would be a really bad mistake. I don’t care what banners they are under. You see they want you under fear so that you rely on somebody else. Right? Kind of like the military is going to save us? I’m just saying…..
Agree. And brain dead Biden agreeing to it.
Or... the enemy is supposed to believe things are going according to plan. Do you really believe that is Joe Biden?
OK, lets says its not Joe Biden, Now what dip shit? LOL .... What are you going to do MAGA From Heaven?? What are you going to do??? How much paint chips did you eat boy?? Are you always this empty of intelligence?
Irrelevant what does that change when it comes to your actions? Your goals don’t change unless your goal is to just sit around and wait for someone to save you then does it matter what you think we’re gonna lose another election and then you’ll be thanked for that one.
Dangit, I keep messing that up. I need to fix that.
Enduring Constitutional Government implies that what you have is a Constitutional Republic Government. Can you honestly say that with a straight face? You don’t see that the Federal government is in Constitutional Default on so many levels?
You seem to misunderstand what COG is.
Yeah? What’s funny or just leave it at that and you don’t explain anything. Because I know for a fact, you don’t have a clue as to what it is. You know it’s people like you that creates the situation that we’re in right now with our country. Do you wanna know why Joe Burns in the office because of your attitude and your ignorance and your gullibility. You guys need to man up and stop taking the easy pass. It’s weak. And it’s causing problems. And it damn sure doesn’t help Trump. You’re actually working against him. Thanks by the way for that.
You don't know because you're not a member of the armed forces. You never read the Law of War manual. You don't work at Iron Mountain. You never read the NDAA or the Patriot Act. You have no idea what's going on. Now... go to Youtube and look up Joe Biden's latest video of him at the Resolute Desk talking about the Debt Ceiling. Tell us why there's a treehouse behind him. When was that installed at the White House? lol
https://www.youtube.com/live/U1EymARAh7w?feature=share
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You guys can’t even tell me how your local government works can you? Who’s your election officials who runs your elections? You guys couldn’t even tell me where one pole station is if you do, I’ll be shocked. I might have a heart attack. Yeah, but we the people not by the military. And I refuse to allow tyrants to take over the government just because we have issues that we can fix. You guys sit here and complain about things that are broken. What have you guys done? Seriously besides sit there breathe air And complain I want to know exactly what you guys have tried because I guarantee you it’s been nothing but hot air out of your mouths. The fact that you guys are promoting and supporting this ideology is extremely dangerous and ignorant and severely lazy it ain’t happening guys. I’m gonna watch you guys do the Walkashame and I’m gonna laugh. It’s gonna be funny.
Answer us this why is adm rodgers and the rest of the team that went into chaynne mountain still locked inside there three years after they went in at the start of covid is it just for fun and games you know as well as i do that is a very long drill and whats is an extend drill
How can you prove they are still locked inside? I mean, where do you guys come up with this??
Agreed. In addition, the situation at the border IMO is so far out of the realm of what has ever occurred under our constitution prior, and is causing many to rightly question if we are indeed a country with a constitutional republic government in place. This insanity is making people question their own sanity. Add in a healthy dose of the trans BS and my mind goes toward mass demonic possession as the only explanation. This is f*cking crazy. So, when we hear their might still be a real government and strategy that will undo the shocking damage that has been done, do you see why it seems plausible? I’ve never heard of Derek but Jon Herold seems credible and dedicated to our country. I’m personally tired of hearing that the military is going to “step in”, that’s encouraging us to sit on our couches and watch a damn movie. Sorry but no. If you all at the 17th specs ops group have a better explanation of what is going on I’m all ears. I don’t think there are actors playing Biden. I do think there’s a lot going on behind the scenes and there are a few good people in the House of Representatives that are doing good things. Rather than debunk, what to you suggest we the people should do? I’m acting locally and praying A LOT.
There are millions of people acting locally. It’s the only answer.
Yes, many people like me are running for school boards, county, and municipal positions. It’s hard to run, but must be done. Do your duty as a citizen and get active!
This line spoke to me as has been on my mind for a long time. "...hearing that the military is going to “step in”, that’s encouraging us to sit on our couches and watch a damn movie. " Derek seems to offer a plausible explanation but now I need to go.and re-read this substack. I do notice a big difference between what Bannon says. which causes me to panic and what Derek says which helps me relax. I don't know what to think anymore. I'm tired of being spun up and wish I could put my head in the sand like so many others I know. I would get more work done, that's for sure. What about Scott Young and Nesara...
Nesara And Hope in the Last Days
Dr Scott Young and Derek Johnson Part 1
https://youtu.be/lbMFIdf5Nf4
Part 2
https://youtu.be/snMVQ8jKG3o
The Documents
http://www.thedocuments.info/
http://drscottyoung.com/about/
Thank you for your thoughtful response. Yes, I agree about getting involved but this is one where I can't get my head around. I see you have written several articles which I will read, but, for now, are you saying Nesara is a hoax?
It’s quite concerning that many people seem unwilling to conduct their own research and seek answers independently. Instead of addressing the facts we present, it appears that the focus is often on pointing out grammar errors and belittling us. Isn’t that odd? We, as experienced professionals in this field, have provided references that clearly demonstrate how these theories cannot fall under continuity of government or continuity of operations. It’s a national effort involving local, tribal, state, and federal entities, each with their own continuity of operations plans tied to national essential functions. This alone debunks both theories. There is no hidden military operation taking place; common sense seems to have been disregarded. The individuals you’ve been listening to, one with less than two years in the army and another with no military or government service experience, lack credibility. Jon with Devolution, for instance, sources news articles for his references. This is our final attempt to present the truth. If you fail to see it, the current state of our country rests on your shoulders. No excuses. We are tired of complaints about issues that can be addressed. We are not seeking followers; we are seeking free thinkers. How much money has blind hope made for you? None, it costs you, or some of you. How much does it cost them?? None, they profit off your false hopes. This situation has become ridiculous..
Trump said he is a wartime president. He also said that we have been attacked worse than Pearl Harbor and 9/11. That’s quite a statement to anyone who has served in the military. Since he has the highest intelligence information and knowingly leaves his post as CIC and capitulates to an enemy invasion, according to the UMCJ that is an act of dereliction of duty and treason. That makes him a war criminal if there isn’t a PLAN in place. I understand your points on COG and COOP however that is in the context of a legally controlled government. In irregular warfare, that is thrown out. You guys are spitballers like us, like Patel Patriot et al. No one in this community knows the PLAN if there is one. No leaks. All war is deception. You need to humble yourself in that respect. In this community we don’t attack others because that creates division. The fact that you call out Herold and Johnson immediately is suspect. This community has been deceived enough and anyone who thinks they have the answers, they don’t. I suggest that you contact Herold and ask if you can go on his Devolution Power Hour podcast to respectfully debate COG. That would be a tell.
Hey PG, S, do you have anything intelligent to say or do you have any references that you want to present instead of just talking because everything you just posted is wrong. You can think it’s not, but it is.
Major General Arnold was a brilliant military strategist. Unfortunately, he chose the losing side. Time will tell when the fog clears who is right and who is wrong. Only a handful know. We are trying to understand the crumbs that are given to us to maintain our sanity. You can attack Herold and others like myself for our opinions, but it doesn’t change anything. My trust is in my Lord and not man. Go in peace.
If you cant see the law og the constitution your blind and a liability.
I understand your perspective, but let me clarify a few points. It's important to note that being a wartime president requires a formal declaration of war through a legal process, which has not taken place. Claims of a secret war are unfounded. Regarding the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice), it is unlikely that the President of the United States would be charged under it. As for the Constitution, it remains in effect and is not suspended. Derek Johnson, whom you follow, may have discussed COG (Continuity of Government) and COOP (Continuity of Operations), which are established programs with legal frameworks, not mere speculation. These programs ensure the stability and functioning of the government in various scenarios.
They are the national continuity policy, Dude, designed for emergencies and disasters. In case of a national emergency, it would be declared through a legal process to ensure public awareness. While you may continue to hold different perspectives, I believe there are important aspects to consider. Deception may be a part of warfare, but our battle is not solely built on deception. It is unnecessary for me to prove anything, and if my words do not resonate with you, feel free to disengage. My intention is to challenge your mindset and encourage active participation in serving our country. We cannot rely on others to save us; it is up to us to take action. While there may not be a perfect plan in place, the military always strategizes and adapts. As someone who has retired from the military, I understand the importance of thorough planning. Your leader, Derek, has limited military experience, which may affect the coherence of his arguments. I appreciate your engagement, as it allows a larger audience to witness this exchange, which I find quite intriguing.
Oh, he didn’t tell you. Yeah we were the first to go against Patel patriot and many times asked him to debate guess what he didn’t do you did your boss Derek he didn’t either. Perhaps you can go ask him for me tell him I’ll debate him anywhere anytime That would be actually awesome but you know what they do. They block all they call it divisive. So yeah opposition huh?? Those guys are calling for unconstitutional ideology. They want the military to take over the government dude that’s like and you wanna support that so good luck.
Ignorance may bring comfort, my friend, so why don’t you indulge in your fantasies while true patriots take action to accomplish what needs to be done? Perhaps one day you will return, enlightened by the reality that we, the determined, are making significant strides.
I’ve seen some amazing strides in our county Republican Party which has firmly been taken over by America first and booted the RINOs. And we are surrounded by blue counties in one of the most progressive areas in the nation. It is acting locally and it’s hard but rewarding. The RINOs aren’t happy but they are losing. We’ve formally rejected the election as fraudulent and voted that the Covid shot should be outlawed. I read about COG but since it doesn’t seem to be happening one way or another, action has to be taken now to prepare for 2024. The Jon Herold group does have some extremely gifted minds and they are engaging a lot of people, but at this point I don’t care if there is such a thing as devolution or not, we can still work together. I have no need to be right, God is in charge and it will go the way way it will, I will be doing my part. There is the fact that Kash Patel, a credible source, has denied COG theory, always in the background to remember.
Well, said friend, there has been huge strides. The issue that I have with COG is this, it’s being miss interpreted. Every level of government has continuity of government, local, tribal state federal within those levels every department has COG plans as well.
It is an emergency action plan, continuity of operations, continuity of government it’s not a military operation plan, nor is it a secret operation plan. devolution is when you’re Plans gets interrupted by the emergency threat right, so if you get if you’re a fire fighting team in the fire overwhelms you well you devolve back to a position to where you can still maintain your national essential function. The way John Herold implies is that it’s totally different. It’s like not even a thing. Well I agree there’s gifted minds they’re not Paying attention or they’re distracted and I’m gonna go with distracted and I kind of feel it’s intentional. I’m pushing back hard on the theory’s man because we need votes focused and we need those votes on the local level. No matter what threat you can imagine deep state cabal Whatever drug cartels whatever it is, they will end up in your community and that that’s what you’re going to have to deal with him. My thought processes go to your communities strengthen them now, in force accountability learn the system. Like, for example, who are your election officials like all of them from your county all the way up to the Secretary of State. What kind of machines do you have kind of machine voting laws do you have etc.. We need that because that’s gonna support everything else. The deep state started at the local levels. Look at George Soros, where is he dumping millions and millions of dollars? Local government.
I think there’s been a lot of interesting exchanges like the one between Pence and Chris Miller back in 2020, the way Biden’s handlers keep taking on Trump policies after bashing them, and there’s always the Bidens getting locked out of the White House, that was awesome. Trump set some stuff up , I’m sure of it. Kash is very confident but is telling us to get busy at the same time. There’s going to be some surprises but to the extent of full levels of layers of government, idk. I agree we can’t get too comfortable like kids who will be taken care of. Those people are scared and we need to get them moving. And take care of the older generation, the ones who need our help. Like my poor mom and dad! On another note, the damn border should be a wake up call for more and more people. This fentanyl sh*t is insane. That being said, the infighting is very dangerous for us patriots.
Hey what did you make of the you tube ops group video featuring the ghost you used in this article, of course without the frog face? That was...interesting.
This article, strangely, appears to miss, or dismiss, the notion of the usurpation of our Constitutional Republic by actors both foreign and domestic during the 2020 Presidential election. If that does not constitute a national emergency, please explain to me what does?
You have provided some valuable information. However, Jon Herold has also provided valuable information which I find difficult to classify, as you have, as misinformation! I consider both yours and his to be merely information among other information. Jon’s information is boldly framed in the context of an insurrection by foreign and treasonous, domestic actors. Your information skirts around that issue and, in fact, seems to imply that everything was fine with the 2020 election and now we just have to move on and elect a President in 2024! If there ever was any MISinformation, it is that the 2020 elections were “safe and secure!” We do indeed have a national emergency! We can’t move on to 2024 until that is fixed!
Rather than getting hung up on a discussion about Jon's definition of devolution, it may be more productive to talk about the essence, or perhaps the intent, of this 17th SOG article.
The main concern that I referenced in my original reply to the article is how it avoids the actual reason why Jon Herold would have even gone down the rabbit hole of devolution in the first place. That whole endeavor is based on the idea that our government was taken over by an occupying enemy (consisting of both foreign actors and domestic actors who were in on the operation) through a coordinated election fraud scheme.
If true, that constitutes a national emergency the likes of which this nation has never seen! That is the essence behind Jon's "dig" into the possibility that devolution was enacted to ensure COG, COOP, NEF, etc.
The above article seems to skirt around that scenario as a possible reason for enacting devolution and appears to limit the scope of national emergencies to natural disasters, nuclear attacks, or the like. It almost comes across as a deflection, or obfuscation of what the real essence of research into devolution is all about!
Particularly damning is the underlying notion that 'we need to forget about 2020 and just move on to elect a president in 2024.' That in itself seems to be an attempt to negate the possibility that the United States of America is now under the administrative control of an occupying enemy.
If you will openly address this concern, perhaps THEN, we can have a productive discussion.
Chris, your response tells me that I not only DID NOT miss the point of the article, but indeed that I hit the nail on the head regarding the point of the article.
Because you seem to refuse to even mention the real reason behind the devolution dig (that being the overthrow of the US government by an occupying enemy through election fraud) you are deflecting FROM it!
Once again, you are dismissing the 2020 event and attempting to shade reality. Saying that Trump has moved on to 2024 is not a good argument for dismissing this entire topic of discussion.
Being "hung up on the 2020 election" is one of the most important things upon which American patriots need to focus. You appear to be hung up on definitions that mean little or nothing compared to the reality in which we find ourselves as a nation. Your obfuscation and deflection of the subject matter makes me question which team you are actually on.
Come on, Chris! Talk about the overthrow of our Executive Branch by an occupying enemy! Then, we can expand that to discuss the subversion of the Judicial and Legislative branches.
At no point have I stated that devolution had anything to do with elections. However, in this case, it may have EVERYTHING to do with the RESULTS of a fraudulent election, namely, the overthrow of our government! You keep avoiding this topic, as if by even addressing it you would be stricken with some deadly disease. Believe me, you will be just fine! ADDRESS THE RESULTS OF THE 2020 ELECTION and relate how devolution might be in play since said election has resulted in perhaps the greatest national emergency we have ever faced!
To continue to deflect and insist that we should forget about 2020 and move on to 2024 is to disavow what millions of Americans already recognize as the truth about 2020.
I agree that local involvement, moving forward, is important. But, one of the main points behind the devolution series is not that the military is going to come in with guns blazing and take out this occupying enemy. Instead, the players in devolution will ensure that there is enough of a country left intact for us to take back!
Dear 17th Special Operations Group scribe, thank you for your resolute explanation. Jon Herold is a Patriot, first & foremost. I thank Jon for his work as a journalist and organizer of patriotic warriors. To call him out as you have is a shame. I don’t believe he has mislead anyone. We are all responsible for analyzing, discerning, and making up our own minds about information we digest, including yours.
So patriots censor other patriots for having an opposing view? You do not know the whole story.
Does patriots feel threatened by other patriots? This was his doing, and why isn't he here telling me this? You don't have a clue whats going on. And sorry, we are not on the same team. He is hurting Trump , making MAGA look bad, shredding the meani9ng of the Constitution, to which I lost 13 brothers for. He is not the guy you think he is,
My point is not about the veracity of his information. We’re on the same side, unless someone is a spy. Jon Herold is a Patriot, not someone misleading intentionally. Again, individuals should read, discern, and most of all keep the big picture, the 40,000 foot view in the forefront. The picture changes quickly. Yes, I read the whole post. Peace
The discernment is completely gone. good luck
Oh and don't forget y'all that President Trump rolled the Federal Reserve up into and under the US Treasury!
There's a great substack out today under Badlands by Joe Lange on this subject!
I really like Joe Lange...I follow him. I'll listen to it this weekend
I dont follow derek closely but the bit that i do , i dont recall him ever saying things are secret , in fact he says the opposite , that everything is open source out there. Secondly , and correct me if u addressed this and i just missed it , but the military is clearly doin something behind the scenes so to speak cause how else does one explain the hundreds of gaffs made or outright violation of regs. Like, all the military personel turning their backs on biden at inaugaration , some even spitting on the ground, or bidens plane on inagaration not military comin in smokin , sputtering on the runway, the wreath transfer was done incorrectly, the 21 gun salute was done incorrectly , the seal on kamala harris' plane falling off when she landed , generals saluting generals , military men in non reg uniforms , some with covers some without , some shaved some with full on beards , biden carrying his own bags being dropped off at airport like some regular civilian , biden not having the proper vehicles in his motorcade , while trump has a real motorcade with ambulance per protocol, biden not having proper call signs on planes .... the list goes on and on thats just a few . So there are all these things that have never ever happened in the history of our country on top of there are all these military code violations , which as u know the military does not make mistakes like that , nor do they allow behavior like that . So clearly the military is involved pulling the strings in some form or fashion or none of this would be going on .
There’s the 21 gun salute again. Right? Army regulation 600–25 salutes honors, and curtesy also NAVY regulations, flags, pennants, honors, ceremonies and customs, also marine corpse order 3700.40 ceremonies and honor, look it up. It is not required for the president to receive a 21 gun salute. The president may waive the salute. And I’ve said this before, the military may also choose not to give the salute if they believe that the president has done something to warrant it. the military may choose not to give the salute if the president has been convicted of a crime or they have been impeached for example. The military can choose not to give a 21 gun salute. Has this happened before? Yes, it has, 1974 President Richard Nixon was impeached by the House of representatives for obstruction of justice and abuse of power. He did not receive a 21 gun salute another example 2009 President Barack Obama was awarded the Nobel peace prize some military objected to him, receiving the award arguing that he had not yet done enough to deserve it. As a result some basis chose not to give Obama a 21 gun salute. That brings us to Biden. Do you know why he did not receive a 21 gun salute? Simple research will tell you the reason for this is that the 21 gun salute is typically given to a president upon arrival and departure from a military installation or upon entering or leaving a building or an enclosed in which the president is present on inauguration day, President Biden arrived at the White House by helicopter, which is not considered a military installation. Also did not enter or leave any buildings or enclosures on inauguration day or he would’ve been eligible to receive a 21 gun salute.
ok fair point but thats just one thing , and i onlly listed about 10 things out of the 100's upon 100's of irregular unprecedented actions that have happened since biden took office, that we have never seen happen before in the history of our country . The statistical probability that all those things are merely happenstance is off the charts against it , next ur gonna tell me thats the same joe biden from when he was vp. point being yes im sure you can provide counter points to a few things that happened or maybe even explain some away , but you cant do it for all of em cause theres just to many . ur hung up on the 21 gun salute ok but theres 900 other things that are unprecedented , irregular, violations etc . one can not just sweep those under the rug and say aw thats just a coincidence , no way there is to many its like a flood of "coincidences" and then one is jist not bein honest about things
So I’m kind of chalking it up as Biden’s shitty president, right? I mean everything you’re mentioning is results of the shitty president with a shitty staff I mean we weren’t we’re not expecting Fine to perform good at all I wasn’t.
Do you know what would be cool? Is if we spent all this energy studying your local government like I can help you man I don’t know if you’re a TruthSocial or whatever you can DM me and I’ll help you detail your local government. It’s actually kind of fun I know it sounds nerdy but anyways we’re putting all this energy in to what if‘s and shit they probably will never find out to be honest.
ya i gotcha i really am on board with all u guys say and believe and im not even gonna try and get into the specifics of COG, COOP etc. i leave that to the military guys like u and derek , my only point is there is gotta be military behind the scenes in some form or fashion to do some of the heavy lifting while we all do what we can locally , working from the bottom up while they work from the top down and we meet in middle . im doin everything i can here in my town as i believe many others are . thanks for all u guys takin the time to put together these essays
See, I never said that military wasn’t behind the scenes. OK I didn’t say that. I said the military isn’t going to take over our federal government, that’s a coup.
Here’s the thing, why am I pushing continuity of government because Derek and John are saying that is what triggered their theory OK?
So what does that mean for Derek? He says the constitution is suspended. Which intern triggered the law of war manual, that’s not true that can’t happen. Continuity of government or continuity of operations preserves . Constitutional government, its right there in our references. We didn’t come up with that. That’s the actual program. And then John theory is similar. Somehow President Trump devolve the government down to the state or something From an election fraud. Why would you devolve? Because you only devolve when you’re threatened by the emergency or the incident, furthermore, you can’t initiate continuity of government or cotton. You have operations without the public knowing, why? Because we are part of the process again that’s also in the references that we left in the article ,do you understand what I’m saying here?
So now we just debunked that narrative. Which means the constitution is in play. Which means the military can’t mess with civilians they don’t have arrest powers. The process of working with civil authorities is specific there’s doctrine, publications, regulations, and a process for that to happen. One of them being a national emergency , and that takes a process, all of that being said the public would know. So the shit piles up when you start looking at processes and the actual programs and what their purposes are.
They’re playing sleight of hand here. The twisting words in creating processes that don’t exist.
And here you guys are and I’m not trying to be a jerk trying to figure shit out, right? Wasting time when you can be spending it on figuring out who your election officials are or what kind of machines are you guys using? Who are they made by? What are the electronic voting laws in your state and in your county in your city township etc. who your mayor and city Council is or whatever type of government you live in, digging on your congressman or senator, figuring out ways to influence them contact them. You see local government involvement starts with learning the system. When you learn the system, you can become a political insurgent and infiltrate effectively, legally and with precision but we’re all distracted right now figuring out all these shit theories.
That is my whole point. That is why I am attacking these guys so fucking hard because this is a big deal. And I’ll add to this they’re getting paid for it dude!
ya i understand , i get it .. thanks for explaining... makes sense
And what time of day is a President to be sworn in? What time did they do Biden's?? And what about Global Resource Systems LLC and those millions and millions of IP addresses just vanishing 1 minute before Biden's oath? (Business Insider may 1, 2021)
This is another Derek piece of disinformation. The constitution does not specify what time the president is sworn in.....only that his term begins at noon. So doesn’t it make sense he should be sworn in before noon so at noon his term begins? That is one of Derek’s most foolish claims.....and he has a LOT of them.
No matter what when that time is the next president is president I mean that is not come on man. How about this, have you tried looking up? How many presidents have been late on their inauguration? Why don’t you try that. You’ll be surprised at what you find.
The IP address thing is still a mystery as far as I know.
People are just trying to fit all the pieces that they have been hearing about into where there’s devolution of government the way they understand it. It’s like playing telephone when you were a kid, but everybody’s in different circles, if that makes sense.
You mean shoving a round peg into a square hole? lol
Actually, Biden received a 21 gun salute. I made a video where I literally number all 21 fires. You don’t see all of them because the camera cuts away but you can still hear them.
Remember how many times Trump brought up that we are at war with an “invisible enemy”, and kept bringing up the 1917 Spanish Flu?
My impression was that the ‘invisible enemy’ Trump was referring to was not a microscopic bioweapon causing a plague.
Thinking along those lines, it is not a leap of imagination to consider that the deep state has declared war on the constitutional republic and We the People, and globally all of humanity.
The J6 prisoners are in fact POW’s, IMHO.
What does that mean? We’re just talking about continuity of operations and continuity of government. in the that way Devolution describes it isn’t what’s going on. It’s not how it works.
Is anything working right now the way it’s supposed to?
Then what good does COG do if we are continuing a government that has been hijacked and converted to a foreign corporation (since 1871). We have just been playing in a Sims video for 150 years. Outside of the framework of the whole sick system a new Republic needs to arise again out of the ashes. This is where common law and the syntax come into play. IMO. And this is why the needed No Such Agency.
The Columbia Act of 1871 is an intriguing topic that requires a thorough understanding of certain terms and processes related to local governments. To provide a comprehensive explanation, I will refer to specific sections in "We the People" Part 3, particularly Section 1.3 on How Local Governments Begin and Section 3.2 on Home Rule, Incorporated and Unincorporated communities. Please note that the information presented is based on my research and understanding.
The United States Constitution grants states the authority to establish and manage local governments, with the only requirement being that these governments do not violate the Constitution or citizen's bill of rights. The process through which local governments are created is called the charter process, which differs in each state and is outlined in state constitutions.
As discussed in Section 1.3, the charter process begins with citizens requesting a charter. It is important to note that the state government does not initiate this process but rather approves it and sets guidelines. The charter process grants local governments greater autonomy and authority, enabling them to provide services such as fire and police departments. Moreover, it empowers local governments to enact laws, ordinances, and zoning regulations. It is crucial to understand that the charter process commences with a citizens' petition, typically requiring a two-thirds majority vote.
Incorporated local governments are directly associated with increased autonomy and authority, as they possess the ability to formulate their own laws. This decentralized system enables citizens at the local level to govern themselves. Conversely, unincorporated local governments have less autonomy and rely on the county and state for services.
The charter process, which has been utilized since the colonial era and is still in practice today, is the mechanism by which local governments become incorporated, granting them greater autonomy and authority. This process, initiated by citizens through a petition, is granted by the state.
Now, turning to the Columbia Act of 1871, it is important to note that the District of Columbia (DC) does not have a state since it is a federal district. Citizens residing in DC sought autonomy and authority to govern themselves and draft their own laws, similar to other local governments. However, due to the absence of a state, the charter process in DC required federal government involvement. Instead of a traditional charter, the federal government enacted the Columbia Act of 1871, incorporating DC as a local government. It is crucial to understand that this act did not modify or alter the US Constitution in any way; rather, it followed the same principles of a charter process but at the federal level.
Similar acts have been passed for other federal districts, such as the Puerto Rico Federal Relations Act of 1950 and the Guam Organic Act of 1950. These acts established self-governance for Puerto Rico and Guam, respectively, granting them limited autonomy under US federal law. Additionally, the term "home rule" is often used to refer to a local government's ability to exercise certain powers without interference from the state government.
It is worth noting that some local governments refer to their charters as constitutions, as they serve a similar purpose in outlining the type of governing body utilized, akin to how the US Constitution outlines the federal government.
If you have any further questions or would like to explore my research in greater detail, I would be more than happy to provide additional information. I respect differing opinions, and if you prefer to agree to disagree, I completely understand.
https://17sog.substack.com/p/we-the-people-our-local-government
I thought the 1917 Spanish flu reference was to the federal banking system and what it did during that pandemic but I can’t link them, the fed bank started in 1913. I know trump wants that fed bank gone.
That is a good point. The system is rotten and corrupt.
Agree. Tangential but it’s what came to mind as I was reading the post.
And not comply with illegal orders.
The United States has been taken over in a Coup with assistance from a foreign nation. COG (Continuity of Government) is a plan to counter a attack that can lead to the destruction of our Constitution and nation.
Nice try ....but I don’t remember President Trump recognizing 2 guys from an audience & introducing them to the world like he did Jon ( Herold ) who by the way was seated in the VIP section...
So ...Sit Down
Are you referring to Jon’s old intro where Trump is saying “Where is John?” Jon Herold dod that as a joke and said so on his show one night. I was just trying to be funny.
WRONG
Just to educate you !!!! Jon stands for Jonathan...Herold not Herald
Whoa bud, you ok?? Why are you so angry?? Does the truth really hurt that bad dude? You know deep down Man Patel patriot has said many times on his videos I know because I’ve watched them say that that’s not him. That is John Kennedy. You must be new to the whole Devolution Theory. I’m guessing wet, 3 to 4 months maybe?
Jon said on his show he put that on his intro to be funny. RE, you need to keep up. Ask Jon....he’ll tell you
Leaves me wondering what if Trump actually WON the 2020 election?
He did! Courts across the nation have been corrupted. But little by slow more people are understanding the threat to our nation. Also, Mr. Harolds work as I have read and heard he never said Trump was still President, in fact it is the opposite. But Trump would be in communication. This will be a good discussion if the emotionalism and slander is taken out of it, in my opinion.
Im pretty sure you dont want to debate. you would lose.
The purpose of your article is in your opening. What stands out is your intent to object to Jon Herald and Derek Johnson research. That’s almost like being in battle, criticizing your mates, focusing on what THEY are doing, and weakening the objective. Why don’t you just share your material, and let the people decide. I saw in comment where you challenge debate. I heard Derek say he would debate anyone. Tell you what, If he accepts, let us know, I wanna watch. OR you can use your skill, write, and let people decide. In the mean time, I’ll let you know a wee about myself. For a short period of time, I was a Democrat. You can thank the Bush family for that. Anyway my point is THEY STICK TOGETHER like glue. Try it, focus on the battle at hand, and charge the opponent, not each other. If Derek, Jon, or you where damaging, the White Hats would let you know. My opinion is you aren’t, I like your writing, I subscribed, I like Jon and Badlands Media, I like Derek. You’ll make a great team.
I know they stick together like glue. Because they have the same motive, which is Socialism basically. We don’t need to unite together on an idea that trashes the constitution. You forget, no matter if we agree or not, that is the one document that unites us as Americans. It’s all there really is to it. And I will not unite with somebody. That trash is the constitution. Sorry not happening.
You come at me with your arrogance? I am pretty sure you are mean spirited as well as arrogant.
I am learning as much as I can as fast as I can for the last 7 years or more.
Facts can be presented cleanly and succinctly without emotional baggage.
Taking a combative stance against your fellow humans makes zero sense to me. I never said I wanted to debate which is usually used for opposing views.
Done. Don't need you.
I am in no way being combative. You need to relax. You came in here making accusations with your arrogance. Look at your first post. And this isn't arrogance?,
"LOL? What? That is your reply? " Get off your high horse....
And Jon does think Trump is still president. How can Trump devolve the government like Jon claims without allegedly being president?
We presented evidence cleanly and succinctly without emotional baggage. We called out his grift. plain and simple. You guys are so hopped up on unconstitutional hopium, you all reeeeee when your challenged. Good, be done. Bye. This is what all you cult followers do. REEEEEEE, then run away emotionally, then accuse me of it. lol. Im glad everyone will see this. Look mat all the posts you guys make. Every one of them got crushed with facts and logic. lol. glorious...
Like I suggested, divisive. What is your motive for that? Are we not all looking? Do people have the right to strive?
Well, it’s unfortunate that you don’t even know what divided is. What unites us more important. And what John and Derek and their theory proposes is absolute division.
I pointed out your attitude towards others is unappealing. Just let's leave it. It's non productive.
My attitude towards people that trash the constitution? Is that we were talking about?
I am in no way being combative. You need to relax. You came in here making accusations with your arrogance. Look at your first post. And this isn't arrogance?,
"LOL? What? That is your reply? " Get off your high horse....
And Jon does think Trump is still president. How can Trump devolve the government like Jon claims without allegedly being president?
We presented c cleanly and succinctly without emotional baggage
Whos emotional?
lol,
LOL? What? That is your reply?
Im just wondering why you came back?
lol
He did. And did you know that Obama issued an EO that voting machines that have parts made in adversarial countries cannot be used in Federal elections? And this EO was extended by both Trump & Biden? Arizona legislature just banned the use of these machines & New California State has issue a statement that they will not be used in the 2024 election. https://www.agenda21radio.news/2023/05/27/new-california-state-notifies-counties-to-not-use-voting-machines-that-have-parts-made-in-countries-that-are-adversarial-against-the-united-states/ Also NCS will have one day of voting which will be a holiday, no mail in voting, paper ballots, hand counting, smaller precincts VOTER ID.
I forgot to mention that these EO’s actually mean that all voting machines are illegal for the 2024 Federal Election, so let’s see if this Federal government which is in Constitutional Default does anything about it.
They were also illegal in 2020. Where is the Supreme Court?
🤣😂 Nice try but the clock is running out! Tick-tock!
Huh??
OK, who is this writing this and why should I believe?
I put together that website
Your research is shallow, using a circular rather than actual government documents and executive orders. You misrepresent Jon Herold's Devolution Series which is well researched and documented. He does not claim Trump is still president. Devolution is much more complex than that, is Constitutional and necessary when every institution is captured. Of course by its very nature Devolution is enacted behind the scenes.
What executive orders? You sit here and say my research the shal, oh it’s you, who can’t read the links. In the article. Oh yeah, that’s right. The shallow follower.
I do not miss represent Patel Patriots, Devolution, trash, unconstitutional ideology. Continuity of operations, continuity of government is solely for preserving constitutional government not suspending it, I don’t care what executive order you think, Trump signed, none of them say to suspend the constitution, ma’am. You’re sounding extremely ridiculous right now. So I’m glad that you posted in here so everybody could see. Furthermore, the national essential function number one is to preserve the constitution! No number two is visible leader ship! So it is you, ma’am, and all of these followers that are blind and honestly part of the problem and part of the reason why our country‘s in a spot that it’s in because you guys are so gullible and so shallow in your research, which you just proved because you didn’t even click on all the links, so good luck , have a good day
Cool it Mr Emergency ....Red Alert
my research is shallow? Well, obviously you didn’t even click on all the links in the article. So who shallow researching? Hey, I get it like your Hopium is getting sucked out but um I’m afraid to tell you derricks gonna probably go down here in the next few days, you should go on Twitter and look right now as we speak because his unit is calling him out for lies. Yeah, he should right now discover here, Kaitlyn journey, he didn’t he made boarded straight out of Fort sill, yeah so yeah I Michel the researcher? I guess you didn’t see my credentials either right? So what is amazingly baffling is that you people would just rather believe in something because it’s easier on you right because you can’t except reality and do what needs to be done in life. That’s what’s unfortunate
You have way too much time on your hands to be commenting on little Ole me.
Nice to put names with the handles!! Lets all work together!!
The only thing that makes me suspicious of Derek is the list of people he follows on Twitter: 97% are beautiful women (their thumbnails are, anyway.) Seems like an odd pattern.
Also he goes on some very questionable podcasts.
His name is Herold. Not a good look on your part.